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1914 Manufacture Date Assistance

Post by Rick_Rice » Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:35 am

Gentlemen,
I am hoping someone can please help me out with the approximate date of manufacture for my 1914 Model T.
The Serial Number Is: 58845X (I left the last digit out and replaced it with X for security). Any help is greatly appreciated and have a great day Guys!

Kind Regards,
Rick Rice


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Re: 1914 Manufacture Date Assistance

Post by Moxie26 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:12 am

Looks like September 26th. 1914 according to the listing in Bruce McCalley's book "Model T - the car that changed the world""
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Re: 1914 Manufacture Date Assistance

Post by Moxie26 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:15 am

Reading better. ?. That was one of 1018 blocks cast on that day.
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Re: 1914 Manufacture Date Assistance

Post by Rick_Rice » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:43 am

THANK YOU!! 😊

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Re: 1914 Manufacture Date Assistance

Post by TRDxB2 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:23 pm

Rick_Rice wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:35 am
Gentlemen,
I am hoping someone can please help me out with the approximate date of manufacture for my 1914 Model T.
The Serial Number Is: 58845X (I left the last digit out and replaced it with X for security). Any help is greatly appreciated and have a great day Guys!

Kind Regards,
Rick Rice
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https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/sernos.htm
The engine number was also the serial number of the car. Engines were numbered when they were completed, and for the most part went into a chassis within a day or so. However, some engines were assembled and numbered at branch assembly plants. Highland Park would ship a block of engine-number records to an assembly plant and these engines might be made weeks or months afterwards. Consequently, engine numbers can only be used to date the "engine" NOT the car.

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Cars built towards the end of a calendar year (starting in August) were marked s then next calendar year. Since you engine date is September 26th. 1914 that would imply that it was for a 1915 model.

This following reference would support the that based on your engine build date it was for a 1915 Model. However, as stated above engines were replaced & there for aren't a reliable method to identify the model year of a Model T

From the MTFCA Encyclopedia for 1915 Models https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1915-16H.htm
Magneto
On September 14, 1914, beginning with engine number 578,042, Ford began using the new magneto with the 3/4-inch magnets. Not only was this new magneto able to supply the additional current for the headlights, its design was such that it reduced the “dead spots” in the spark lever setting that were so noticeable in the earlier design. This was accomplished by also using larger and oval-shaped pole pieces in the magneto coil. Other than casting a “notch” in the base plate to clear the starter shaft in 1919, the magneto remained relatively unchanged through the balance of Model T production.

The best way to date a Model T is for members to look a pictures of it for subtitle differences for a particular year'
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Re: 1914 Manufacture Date Assistance

Post by Steve Jelf » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:18 pm

Cars built towards the end of a calendar year (starting in August) were marked s then next calendar year. Since you engine date is September 26th. 1914 that would imply that it was for a 1915 model.

That's mostly right for most model years [S?]. But the change from 1914 to 1915 was different: 1915: September 1914 (Sedan), October (Coupelet) and January 1915 (open cars) to August 1915.

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