Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
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Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
I posted on this in my build thread, but wanted to do something seperate.
I currently have nothing aside from a ball valve under my tank. I would like to put something to help filter impurities to the carb/engine.
I do like the possibilty of putting a sediment bowl/bulb in place of the ball valve, this would only use the brass screen to catch things. But it looks like the connection on those are 1/2" NPT or Straight (needs packing nut/felt) ?
And if I went the route of a modern fuel filter, some have mentioned the issue of flow issues from being gravity fed?
What is the most common solution to filtering fuel?
Or am I over thinking this issue (as I usually do).....
Here is my current tank connection: This is a sediment bowl/bulb I have seen on eBay or parts dealers -- the input threads look to be 1/2 NPT|Straight And this is the Napa 3032 inline filter
There is also maybe the option of a glass bowl filter?
I currently have nothing aside from a ball valve under my tank. I would like to put something to help filter impurities to the carb/engine.
I do like the possibilty of putting a sediment bowl/bulb in place of the ball valve, this would only use the brass screen to catch things. But it looks like the connection on those are 1/2" NPT or Straight (needs packing nut/felt) ?
And if I went the route of a modern fuel filter, some have mentioned the issue of flow issues from being gravity fed?
What is the most common solution to filtering fuel?
Or am I over thinking this issue (as I usually do).....
Here is my current tank connection: This is a sediment bowl/bulb I have seen on eBay or parts dealers -- the input threads look to be 1/2 NPT|Straight And this is the Napa 3032 inline filter
There is also maybe the option of a glass bowl filter?
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Re: Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
Ben,
It is ALL up to YOU to make the best decision for your truck. Since you're asking for experience of others, I would recommend listening to Ron. He KNOWS what he's talking about. What he recommends, has worked extremely well for him, and others, for many years.
A man/woman can gain experience by doing it themselves OR by listening to a good Teacher.
Good Luck
It is ALL up to YOU to make the best decision for your truck. Since you're asking for experience of others, I would recommend listening to Ron. He KNOWS what he's talking about. What he recommends, has worked extremely well for him, and others, for many years.
A man/woman can gain experience by doing it themselves OR by listening to a good Teacher.
Good Luck
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Re: Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
I do not disagree with you or Ron at all.
I just learned to always include a broader audience from time to time.
There are times when all you know is what is "right" because that is what you learned to be true (that isn't right or wrong) and then there are times when new things come up that you may not be aware of. I like knowing as much as possible to make an educated decision.
So that is why I created the thread. I'm curious what others are doing and why.
I just learned to always include a broader audience from time to time.
There are times when all you know is what is "right" because that is what you learned to be true (that isn't right or wrong) and then there are times when new things come up that you may not be aware of. I like knowing as much as possible to make an educated decision.
So that is why I created the thread. I'm curious what others are doing and why.
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Re: Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
I prefer to keep my Ts mostly stock especially the fuel delivery system although I do install a shut-off at the carburetor. The repro sediment bulbs have a decent track record - I've installed quite a few. I also use annealed 1/4" steel brake line to make my own fuel line & use neoprene gaskets. It's quite a simple solution but ditch the inline filter !
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Re: Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
Modern inline filters usually mean trouble in the Model T gravity-feed system. I fought trashy fuel for a long time until a loose baffle flopping around inside caused me to buy a new tank. The old tank took the trash with it and I never had the problem of trashy gas again because I was very careful to avoid contamination when refilling.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
When my Dad and I restored my grandfather's 27 coupe, with cowl mounted tank, back in the 1960's, I can't remember whether we had the original sediment bulb/filter, or not, but we chose to replace it with a modern glass bowl bulb with brass filter screen and built in shut off. I worked fine and stayed that way until this millennium when I went back to the original when doing a updated restoration. If I can find a picture of the type we used, I'll add it to this post.
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Re: Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
Under seat vs cowl tank is apples & bananas. I would not be surprised an inline filter worked on a cowl tank.
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Re: Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
Hi Ben,
Looking at the photo that you posted of your gas tank connection, it raises a few questions. It appears that the tank outlet is too small for the stock sediment bowl. It also appears that the tank outlet is almost directly above the exhaust pipe. I would not expect to find either if it was a stock Ford gas tank. If these things are true, and your vehicle has an aftermarket/re-purposed/non-stock gas tank, then your options point towards a one-off solution. A separate glass bowl sediment filter (without the internal pleated filter element) can replicate what the Ford "potato" does. You would need to source one, I would look towards vintage tractor parts suppliers. Once found, you would then need to figure out a good place to mount it. Since this would be a completely custom installation, the advice here will probably be limited to general considerations.
Some folks run electric fuel pumps if their fuel tank is located somewhere that a gravity feed is less effective. With a fuel pump, a modern fuel filter cartridge becomes more viable. Typically, adding a pressure regulator is a good idea with a fuel pump, to get the fuel pressure down to the <2 psi that the stock Ford carburetors are comfortable with.
Alternatively, installing a reproduction Ford gas tank would mean that you could use more stock parts and get more specific advice on getting things back to "spec".
Keep crankin',
Eric
Looking at the photo that you posted of your gas tank connection, it raises a few questions. It appears that the tank outlet is too small for the stock sediment bowl. It also appears that the tank outlet is almost directly above the exhaust pipe. I would not expect to find either if it was a stock Ford gas tank. If these things are true, and your vehicle has an aftermarket/re-purposed/non-stock gas tank, then your options point towards a one-off solution. A separate glass bowl sediment filter (without the internal pleated filter element) can replicate what the Ford "potato" does. You would need to source one, I would look towards vintage tractor parts suppliers. Once found, you would then need to figure out a good place to mount it. Since this would be a completely custom installation, the advice here will probably be limited to general considerations.
Some folks run electric fuel pumps if their fuel tank is located somewhere that a gravity feed is less effective. With a fuel pump, a modern fuel filter cartridge becomes more viable. Typically, adding a pressure regulator is a good idea with a fuel pump, to get the fuel pressure down to the <2 psi that the stock Ford carburetors are comfortable with.
Alternatively, installing a reproduction Ford gas tank would mean that you could use more stock parts and get more specific advice on getting things back to "spec".
Keep crankin',
Eric
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Re: Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
That looks like a natural gas/manufactured gas pilot light valve.
The 1953 Rheem furnace that was original to my house had a "B" handle valve for the pilot light, but the inlet and outlet were in straight line, not 90 degrees like yours. It was a tapered valve, not a ball valve, with a tension spring and screw on the opposite side from the B handle.
The 1953 Rheem furnace that was original to my house had a "B" handle valve for the pilot light, but the inlet and outlet were in straight line, not 90 degrees like yours. It was a tapered valve, not a ball valve, with a tension spring and screw on the opposite side from the B handle.
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Re: Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
The new repro bulbs seem to work fine. If thread size is an issue, you can use a pipe thread reducer. I went to a tractor sediment bowl with a fine mesh screen. No filter element. Some of these tractor bowls have a built in fuel shut off. Similar to
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Re: Sediment bowl/bulb vs modern fuel filter
Don’t use an automotive type in line filter. What I’ve always used on my T’s is a lawnmower in line filter. Most of them are gravity feed like the T. It’s not the same as a pump type auto fuel system. Never had a problem using them.
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