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Bosch distributor pieces

Post by PetefromTexas » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:36 am

Before I get into this question please leave out the comments about “the original Mag and coil boxes working fine”and “you don’t need a distributor”. Sorry if that offends anyone it’s just that in every distributor thread I see it’s full of people saying things like that and that is not my question at the moment.


Ok. I recently purchased this Bosch distributor for my Model T. The cap and rotor were broken in transit. I see lots of new parts for these fairly cheap and I’m wording which ones you’ve had good luck with.

Also, how do I tell what model Bosch distributor this is? I see several sites selling parts that fit a 009 Bosch distributor. Not sure if that’s the one I have or not. I’m about to start looking up the info just thought I’d ask first.
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Re: Bosch distributor pieces

Post by PetefromTexas » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:57 am

From what I can tell this looks to be a Bosch 600. Is that correct?


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Re: Bosch distributor pieces

Post by Jim Eubanks » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:11 am

Somewhere I have a copy of the original Bosch instructions and parts list that I cannot seem to find right now. I can tell you that I have both the "clip on" which you have and the "front plate" version. Caps, rotors and the point plate with cond. are the same on both. Both of my dist. have a centrifugal advance built in. The front plate has both cent. and a manual advance provision.

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Re: Bosch distributor pieces

Post by Henry K. Lee » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:21 am

Pete,

I have spare parts, let me know what you require.

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Post by PetefromTexas » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:43 am

Henry K. Lee wrote:
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Pete,

I have spare parts, let me know what you require.

Hank in Tin-A-See

Thank you sir!

I believe everything is here for this one. I just need to replace the broken cap and rotor. I’m not 100% sure about he points being available but it wouldn’t hurt to have an extra of everything just in case something breaks. I’ll pick up a new coil and test the condenser but those tend to be universally available parts.

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Re: Bosch distributor pieces

Post by Mark Gregush » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:54 am

What you have is a Bosch 600 series fully automatic advance/retard distributor with no provision for manual advance/retard. No parts for the modern Bosch (like the 009) will fit directly. The cap, rotor and points are the same for the 600 series distributor clip on types. I do not think they were the same for the Bosch distributor used on the front plate?
What you really need to watch for is how worn the shaft, cam and housing are. If these parts are worn, your timing will be all over the place.
I do not have a problem with using a distributor so what I am going to say is; I had one like this and really did not like the lack of control by me while driving. Seat of the pants, did not feel it was getting enough advance for today's driving.
The 600 clip on came in several versions. This one, one with combination semi auto advance with manual and I think one that was completely manual(?). The combination version, the advancing mechanism can be locked down and manually controlled.
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Post by PetefromTexas » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:36 pm

Mark Gregush wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:54 am
What you have is a Bosch 600 series fully automatic advance/retard distributor with no provision for manual advance/retard. No parts for the modern Bosch (like the 009) will fit directly. The cap, rotor and points are the same for the 600 series distributor clip on types. I do not think they were the same for the Bosch distributor used on the front plate?
What you really need to watch for is how worn the shaft, cam and housing are. If these parts are worn, your timing will be all over the place.
I do not have a problem with using a distributor so what I am going to say is; I had one like this and really did not like the lack of control by me while driving. Seat of the pants, did not feel it was getting enough advance for today's driving.
The 600 clip on came in several versions. This one, one with combination semi auto advance with manual and I think one that was completely manual(?). The combination version, the advancing mechanism can be locked down and manually controlled.
Get the cap and rotor, install and have fun! It will be another T on the road.


Thank you for the info!! That is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. I may keep this one for parts and find one with an adjustable advance. We will see. In the meantime I’m on the hunt for a cap and rotor.

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Re: Bosch distributor pieces

Post by TRDxB2 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:41 pm

Really need to see whats under the distributor cap. seeing an external capacitor might mean someone changed the plate that the points sit on. Here are some Instructions for a stock AMERICAN BOSCH distributor. Current BOSCH brand has no connection or parts for the 600.
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Re: Bosch distributor pieces

Post by Henry K. Lee » Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:47 pm

Frank you are 100% correct.

Pete I have a good used cap, rotor, head and a good internal advance. Also a new modern VW mechanical distributor (009 style) condenser in the box. They work the Best for these old girls. Later, you can modify by changing the head to a VW style if you like. Have done about 50 of them over the years.

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Re: Bosch distributor pieces

Post by TRDxB2 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:09 pm

Here are the last 2 pages of instructions plus 2 others. I'm certain that this isn't a Type 600 but a different version of the Bosch 600 based on the bolt clamping the head to the base. I have both versions and there are many differences between the two even though they look quite alike. I believe his is what you should have under the cap & rotor (photo is from MTFCA)
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Re: Bosch distributor pieces

Post by Jim Eubanks » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:44 pm

If anyone has a extra new set of points for the original Bosch I would be interested in buying them.


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Post by PetefromTexas » Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:08 pm

Thanks for the info. I’ll be reading all of that shortly. Here is a pic of the inside.
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Post by Henry K. Lee » Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:28 pm

That’s the one I have the pieces for, let me know by sending an email.

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Re: Bosch distributor pieces

Post by TRDxB2 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:44 pm

Pete, I think someone has altered the distributor you have. The logo on the condenser is MC not the AB devil's head. The second major difference is the points are set up to rotate counter clockwise and the tip on the came shaft is 100% different. Not sure which picture Hank was referring to.
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