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Only thing I'd like to caution is, for the "under $10K mark", it may run decently, for the time being, but more than likely it will need an engine overhaul. Just saying. Good luck with your search, after all, that's half the fun!!

Ditto to what Jim Lyons just posted. Same with my '13. He even has the correct pattern for the "little flaps" for the '13 top boot. Cost a bit extra to have them, but of course worth it. I don't think other vendors have this correct part. Another thing Mike did, per request, and I always advise, was...

I've towed my Ts in both 16 & now currently a 20 foot tandem trailer. No problems with either. Always used at least a friction anti-sway bar on both. I feel those are a must. I also have, but seldom use, a load-equalizing hitch with my '20 foot trailer. Frankly with the extra trailer length, I can p...

See, I can't even figure out how to pull out a part of a paragraph and put it in quotes!! Ba ha ha.

I figure driving style counts there too. The most common advice on braking is to use the pedal as little as possible, slowing down mostly by engine braking and using the pedal only at slow speed for the final stop, and intermittently to keep the drum oiled. I agree with Steve. I let 'er coast a lot...

This week I changed the oil from both my Ts. The screen was lint free on both. Had about 650 miles on both. Surprisingly even the oil wasn't black. Point being, I don't know what all the fuss is about. Maybe my bands are adjusted well, I don't abuse the pedals, don't let anything slip, so there's no...

I "hung up" on THEM...I got rid of the stupid landline long ago!

Comes as no surprise. Smart move.
Steve, I wouldn't count on 2021 either.

John, you're probly right about the LaFrance's. This one was really nice, sounded sweet.
Tim...I can't remember seeing that beautiful visible pump last time I was there...but then, it was a few years ago.
Sweet!
The "other Tim"

The village of Woodville, Ohio canceled their 4th of July parade. Our member Bill Rowles who lives there, helped arrange for a "substitute antique car tour" through town instead. Our club had 5 Model Ts and Maumee Valley Ts had 2 Ts & a model A. The village fire department lead the tour with their 1...

Is that far right contact "spring" kinda small compared to the others? Or is it just an optical illusion in the picture?

THEY knew how to REALLY put on an auto show, didn't they?

Do I hear "Green Acres is the place to be" playing in the background?

Wonder if smearing some NeverSeez on the perch shafts would prevent, or at least slow down the "rusting in" process? I
would think it would.

Very early '14? I thought the bills on the front fender came after the last half of '14s?? Just wondering.

Sent you an email Darin, in case you see this before your emails!!

Who's making White Tires today? Right now, technically no one. Last I heard, it will be a long shot if Vietnam begins making them again. Haven't heard of anyone else making them. If there is, chime in and enlighten us! I've been waiting for a warranty exchange for over a year now, no luck at all. I...

Hey thanks y'all! It was a great evening. Seems the humidity was also just right, I swear these cars run better when it's humid! Must be burning the hydrogen eh? LOL Today I'm working up a "lunch tour" with "the local gang" of our club (many live way out of town) for tomorrow, there's a great little...

Well crap! I hit the wrong button!! Duuh.
Try the pics now!!

Just too nice tonite to sit home. Too warm & muggy for the wife. Not for me. :D Told her gonna take Clara for a drive. (My '13, not another woman!) So I ended up down at the newly reworked combination city pier/dock/greenspace, complete with an ice cream wagon. Of course I just HAD to treat myself. ...

To take the TIME, let alone "catch" all the oil and coolant being drained, then transporting it back to wherever into the factory, didn't really make much economic sense to me. Had to be one helluva gathering of workers to do all that work as those cars were rolling out the factory at like nobody's ...

Just taking after, and learning from you Joe, always glad to lend a hand when I can.
Ralph's a great guy, really enjoyed talking with him.
And you're more than welcome Ralph, thanks for the kind remarks. Glad to help.
Safe driving!!

Hey Seamus!! Good to see you and your friend had such a great trip. I love the U.P. of Michigan and the bridge. Such a beautiful place. Taking the T over it is on my bucket list...who knows when! I'm assuming you're either on vacation, or the Museum is down for the virus?? Either way, great to see y...

Good news Bob! Sounds like they contacted their Bonding Agent. Terry, you might not have seen my post above regarding authentication for log-ins. I've done this with P.P. ever since I started with them. Just makes sense. Same with all my online stuff. That's the great part of a cell phone, unless th...

I don't know why PP couldn't require a second level of verification for transactions over, say, $500. Not sure if this is what R.V. exactly means, but in my case, when I sign into P.P. I also have to request a "3rd. layer" for I.D., that is, they send me a code via my cell phone in order to sign in...

Ralph...sending you a PM.

And I meant COIL box!! Dang I hate auto-correct!

Yeh too bad for those "Buick wannabe" portholes in the hood! Rear end is original. From my phone I can't get a good look. Be nice if the original could box and switch are there. Should be a Heinz. Brass windshield support rods look to be painted black or it's the worst case of tarnish I've ever seen...

I guess subconsciously that's why as soon as money is in my P.P. account I immediately transfer it to my bank. Maybe I'm just lucky. But now I will CONSCIOUSLY get it transferred toot-sweet so maybe I will beat the thieves to the punch. But then also, I dont sell that much anyway. I do buy quite a b...

I guess I need to learn to park the Fordor eh?

Or put a stopper-block where I often leave the car in the drive??

With all this talk of a possibly loose felloe on the rim due to one or more broken rivets... there's not many as it is, I would think he would be able to actually move the fellow a bit on the rim to indicate that. Also, there surely would be some broken paint between the felloe and rim. At any rate,...

Yep Jimbo, you're right. Love that area. I'll try to remember the ice cream for ya! And yeh that was a great tour. We'll be doing one again soon. Sorry "other Tim"..no wait..that's me!...anyway Dropacent Tim, sorry I didn't see ya! Focusing on the road I guess.

YAY!! LOL.

Those who know me well, know I complain (b-word) a lot about the awful Ohio Winter & Spring weather. Today made up for it. Too nice not to go out for a spin in the Fordor. Stopped a bit on one of my favorite abandoned roadways now being used as a fishing pier. Watched people be outsmarted by the fis...

Dick, does your rad just have the neck with no rivets?
Cause that is definitely a major cause of the neck coming loose.
I have a '13 with the riveted neck and the gull wing moto-meter and so far have had no problems. Fingers crossed.

Dont know about y'all but I'm getting tired of this "social distance" practice and even the description! But anyway...our club did it's best to comply with a picnic prior to a nice afternoon tour anyway. We did about 64 miles or so, I had 68 door to door. Lotta fun, including turning around to get m...

Thanks Tim! That's our sentiment exactly. Once the screwy weather straightened out, we've already had at least 4 impromptu outings with anywhere from 3 to 7 cars. We had 7 cars on an early May Sunday when it was a rare nice day that I threw together. All we did was drive and make one short stop towa...

Today five of us from our local club got together "Vagabond style" for a little picnic, social distance of course, to just enjoy camaraderie and plan this Sundays picnic and tour. The Pres was the chef! We will start here again at noon and tour the afternoon from there. Great weather forecast so sho...

I see quite a few axle housings buried in there. Of course all the rims easily seen. Man that's a pretty good sized boat propeller too, looks like what we used to call a "hard water situation".

No easy task getting that thing up on the pile. Wonder what it was off of ...

Good luck! Hope ya can find some, cause word has it white tires are all but gone forever. Doesnt sound like the Asians are gonna make them anymore. I've been waiting for a year for a pair of warranty exchange and it seems hopeless.

Steve...I read that same paragraph from Blockley.
I looked far and wide for 30x3, did not see it listed. Maybe they're still in development or just haven't upgraded their website. Still have to wonder about shipping cost though.

David, that's a good question. I had my local glass shop do that, and it worked okay. Maybe touch base with them first. Is your car a 13 or 14? As you saw above I suspect, a guy in CA has a 14 windshield to part with, I'm assuming he means top and bottom...May wanna check into that first if you have...

Okay, it's great they have the 30x3.5", at $165 US, not a bad price, but of course it'll probably be $65 per tire to ship.
Then, they don't show a 30 x 3 tire....so what're ya gonna do? The fronts of the '12 need 30 x 3.... Just saying.

John, thanks for sharing that wonderful, touching story. Sad that it is, it's good you have memories of the better moments.
May he rest in peace, may you get your flivver soon. God bless young man.

Well if it isn't too late, see what their return policy is.

Good point John, but something tells me todays "stuff" may have something else in it. Whow knows, I'm just not taking any chances.
They didn't use it "back in the day"...so why start now? LOL

Nope neighbor! (I'm in N.Central Ohio!)....but, if they're made in the good ol' USA they can't be all bad, can they??

Aww heck..so did our club last Saturday! Started out with 6 cars plus one modern...ended up with 5 at our destination as the last car got a flat tire. Good thing for the modern car following!
In the group photo my 13 is far left...and did Russ fall down or just checking something? LOL

I can't remember the details anymore (nothing new there) as it was several years ago, but the guy who put the tires on my previous Ford pickup truck vehemently said that any and all "tire treatments" are detrimental to the rubber. That's all I can remember. But he went into detail, and certainly sou...

Posting this for a friend. Very nice hood for a '26.
$275 plus shipping from 44870. Call or text Tom at 419-656-5909. Prefer PayPal. Thanks.

Good eye Scott! Frankly, I don't pay that much attention to the details! Upon looking further for a change, looks like
all 4 tires are that way, but you already knew that!!

It'd be a waste of time in my book, don't know why anyone would even bother. Just look for a brass car of your choice and
budget and buy it.

I just figured Susanne has a case of Coronaquarantineitis!!

Holy crap! What a gorgeous transformation! Spill your guts buddy!...What kind of paint, engine work, etc. etc. etc. If you're willing to divulge "private info"...how much did this empty your wallet? Just curious. If you're idea is to flip it then of course you can't give away your "profit margin". B...

I have had Informed Delivery for over a year now. It's great. Just nice to know what's coming, especially out in the sticks where the mailbox is "free game" for idiots passing by maybe wanting to score a quick treasure. Or just aggravate us. That way if something's missing, you can check with the P....

Allan, I did that. I did a letter writing campaing, etc. Of course, I have no idea of how many people followed through on their promise to send letters. I guess it is what it is. BTW Tim & Joe...with all due respect, and humor of course!...that picture sort of blinded me by "the shine"!! :lol: Actua...

Ditto to everyone. I tried twice to get him nominated for the Rosenthal award with no success. Don't know why. :( And yeh Tim, the "other hobby evidence" is right there, aint it!! Maybe others just missed it? That cat is a hoot BTW. His shop is too cool, for all the stuff he has, he can find everyth...

Mike, do what Allen just said. Let those who deal with it daily handle it. It's worth the money. You break your glass once, maybe twice, trying to install it, now you've spent more than what it would be to let them do it. I've done two sets of windshields through the glass company and no regrets.

Aaaaand the debate begins!!!

Finally got a nice day after 19 rotten days in a row. After running errands in town met up with a T buddy and off we went, social distancing in separate cars of course! Was a great afternoon.

Mark & Leo, I basically agree with you. However, given past experience, after trying the "leave it be" thing, I have found myself with trouble well into the season. Preventive maintenance is just that...repair/replace before it breaks. With the hope of course it makes it through the full year also! ...

Whoops! Thought I was responding to Ien!! My bad! Hope he sees this all eventually!!

True. But a Google search should get you what you want. Concept is just a "run of the mill" Urethane enamel. Anyone should be able to produce it I would think. Good luck to you. I will admit also, in previous posts where one guy showed the excellent results from just a good old rattle can of applian...

Nice pics, but the family in the top photo sure doesn't look happy. In fact, the dad looks downright mean. Wonder if that's some sort of military garb, left over from WWI? Maybe the memories of that awful time are still showing on him. Sadly, the kids don't look any happier. At least the girl in the...

As expensive as it is, I now prefer PPG's Concept, it sure puts out a nice finish, pretty easy to use, and seems to be as close to "Model T black" as it gets. Something that small, you can use one of those Preval spray units with great success. I've painted large parts of cars with it and they look ...

Yeh, at first I wasn't too fond of them. Maybe 'cause they wouldn't fit in a "normal" garage.
But now with a barn and a 12.5' door, I'd love to have one. They are definitely unique looking.

I use AOL for my homepage. On the scrolling newsfeed up came this pic of Copperthite's company's Pie Wagon. It accompanied a story on some guy named Strausse...from Indiana..supposedly the inventor of pie or something like that. No other pic of the pie wagon in the story though. And of course its si...

Well Bill, at least they knew what they were saying.
Too bad the '13s & '14s didn't keep the "all brass" look going,
but I know for money reasons it had to be.

Steve, I sure hope the idiot at your local farm store isn't allowed to VOTE!!
Man there's a lot of stupid out there.

Bill, your sidelights would be correct for your engine number. Your '14 is a very early one. About mid-point to even late '14 the so-called "built in" bracket lights showed up. Re your horn..I believe yours should be the oval mount, but since your '14 is an early one, it too may have the round mount...

I don't have a dizzy on my Ts, but when I had a Model A, of course it did.
From that experience, I would recommend replacing the points and condenser every spring just as a matter of
preventive maintenance. It's not that expensive. Just my humble (?) opinion!

According to the encyclopedia the 666 were also used on the '13s, along with a few Victors, Browns and Corcorans.
His triple-6 (I hate the actual number) should be considered okay.

Forgot something about your nice looking sidelamp...the bracket. Does this lamp slide onto a separate bracket, or is the bracket "integral" to the lamp? Cause '13s lamps slide/clamp onto the bracket. The lamps with the so-called built-in bracket are '14. A few '13s are seen with them, probably due t...

Darin, the "argument" if you will about the horn is almost like the argument about oil. Yes, plenty of cars, probably very early '13s had all brass horns, I suspect they were leftover from late '12s. But in the spirit of "correctness", it is generally assumed to follow the Judging Guidelines, not ju...

I was able to gather a nice bunch of club members for a 2 hr. Sunday drive, not bad since I sent the text out Saturday! We had spectacular weather finally. I will apologize right now as I'm positive no matter what I do my pics will be sideways!! One will be Jim Riedy and his faithful passenger, Cham...

If I didnt k ow better I'd say the chauffeur is Captain Smith from the RMS Titanic!!
Beautiful car.

Yep, like Dave & others...I DROVE them! 2 trips in the Fordor, then after supper a trip out in the country in the '13 Touring. Fantastic. Finally a warm day!! Next week, definitely Fordor weather again. After previewing I see again we're laying on our side! Uff. I've tried correcting it to no avail,...

Richard, I would say yes, probably for a late '12, definitely for a '13. It looks all brass, with the body painted black.
My early '12 had an E & J taillight which was about the same other than the font securing handles, and was all brass. It was gorgeous.

Scott is correct, that is a correct '13 horn, and thankfully mounted correctly also!! (Used to be a thorn in Royce Peterson's side!) However, I really believe that the machine screws were not "factory". Maybe Larry Smith knows better, as he's probably got more '13 knowledge than anyone around. The J...

Yep, it is a shame. Whole new world of "normal" we're gonna face this summer.
Thanks for the post.

Not an expert, but the judging guidelines do call for the 13's horn to be Black and brass. Mine also was all brass, and believe me it killed me to have to paint it mostly black to fall in line with the guidelines. But having it judged at an International Annual tour, (it got the "gold"), it was wort...

Bob, it would be helpful if you indicate whether it's a round tube or a flat tube. Just a thought.

Didn't know him from Adam, but what few posts of his I've read, seems like he knew his stuff, and also wasn't afraid to express his opinion. My kind of guy. I'm sure he will be missed. RIP.

Kingston L4 carb, spray needle in great shape, has the good float needle valve, not that crappy Gros valve. $100 plus shipping from 44847. Estimate it to be $15. PayPal preferred so I can reimburse any ship overcharge easier. Will take check or M.O. though. PM or drop me a call or text at 419-271-54...

I would also take that gummed up carb, and soak it completely in a can of lacquer thinner. There's not much to these carbs,
and soaking it for a day in that just might be what the doctor ordered. I'd definitely try it. I've done it with success. And of course, you'll have to repaint it!!

Sold to Dale. Thanks Dale & MTFCA!

If it's possibly (and quite probably) still got the original "tar like goop" in it as I've encountered in a couple of '12s and a '20, frankly no amount of diesel fuel and draining will clear it out adequately. This crap is almost like tar. IF that's what it's got in it, and you should be able to tel...

Makes two of us. But chilly today with a stiff NE breeze off Lake Erie, but plenty nice in the Firsor. Sure glad I bought this car!

3-bolt muffler shell kit. 3 bolts included...threads could tolerate a little TLC but are repairable with minimal effort. $25 plus shipping from 44847, est. at $12. Prefer PayPal, so if I owe a refund on shipping overage it is easier. But will take check or M.O. Call or text 419-271-5405. Thanks!

Got a pretty decent kerosene tail lamp o ha e no use for. I suspect it's for '17 on up to where kerosene lamps were discontinued. It's an Edmund & Jones. Restore it or can be used as is. Lenses need a bit of cleaning, but no big deal there! $65 plus ship from.44847, est. at $15. Prefer PayPal, so if...

Rich, just sniffing the all those corks would get me drunk!!

The picture of the public notice sure gives credence to the old saying "Everything old is new again" doesn't it? Sheesh.
Interesting sign hanging from the guys neck in the pic below it..."Wear a mask or go to jail"...wow. They meant business didn't they?
Interesting pics Dom, thanks for posting.

Thanks again fellas! Makes one feel real good during times that can easily get ya "down"!! She is my pride and joy for sure! And runs smooth and quiet as a mouse. Wayne, interesting you said that, and of course thank you! I sent a pic of "the three" to my good friend in Germany, she basically said t...

You definitely picked the right time for knee surgery. Glad you're doing better and back on the road. Stay healthy and safe.
Nice of the truck driver to slow up for you!

Awwww, shucks. Thank you both!

I agree with John. Shouldn't have to run at all with the choke pulled any way out once it gets going. Check your timing, clean your plugs, did you put stabilizer in the fuel last fall...because you SHOULD. Trust me, it works! That ethanol is hard on fuel systems. I bet ur carb is buggered up with ba...

SOLD! Thanks Bill & MTFCA

SOLD! Thanks Jimbo & MTFCA

Is this what you need for a lamp? $50 plus ship, est. $15. Prefer PayPal. Call or text me 419-271-5405. Thanks.

Nice clean almost new switch wire harness. Wires check out with continuity and are marked. Retail $26, gimme $15 plus shipping and it's yours. Ship est. at $9 in the flat rate box I think. Prefer PayPal, easier to reimburse ship overcharge if necessary. Check or M.O. of you dont have P.P. Call/text ...

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