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A new tool

Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:04 pm

I'm sure this is old hat to many, but I learned about it just a few years ago when I used a friend's, and bought this one Friday. Actually I bought one at HF last week but returned it. This one costs more, but it works.

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Hook it up to the air supply, drop the hose into a can of solvent, and spray away grease and dirt. Very handy.
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Re: A new tool

Post by jiminbartow » Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:18 pm

Could you spray a thin paint wash with it? Where’d ya get it? Jim Patrick


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Re: A new tool

Post by NoelChico » Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:36 pm

I remember a similar tool used by my father on the farm that had a quart reservoir (like an oil can) and was hooked up to an air hose . We uses diesel fuel or kerosene as a solvent.

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Re: A new tool

Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:44 pm

Could you spray a thin paint wash with it? Where’d ya get it?

I suppose you could, but I expect it would have to be so thin that it would run and drip.
I got this one at the Big Tool Store in Derby. The name is Turbo Blo-Gun Engine Cleaner, the make is Milton, and the model is S-184-CS.There are several others available, but many of them use a button instead of a trigger. Holding that button in gets old real quick.
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Re: A new tool

Post by Allan » Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:16 pm

I use an old time Kero gun. It has a screw-on 1 1/2 pint pot but when I have a longer job, I just fit a hose to the pick-up and drop the other end directly into the solvent drum.

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Re: A new tool

Post by jiminbartow » Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:31 pm

It may be the lighting but is it brass? All the ones I find online are not brass and the model number is S-184. there is no CS at the end of the model number. Jim Patrick


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Re: A new tool

Post by jiminbartow » Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:40 pm

I just ordered one on Amazon for $30.00. Jim Patrick

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Re: A new tool

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:12 am

That's the same one, Jim. Not brass.
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Post by jiminbartow » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:29 am

Thank you, Steve. I look forward to receiving it and trying it out. Jim Patrick.


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Re: A new tool

Post by tiredfarmer » Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:03 am

Steve I have used one for years. It's real handy for washing out the front hubs of grease.


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Re: A new tool

Post by Bud Delong » Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:08 am

Steve, it looks very handy as a pre wash!! I think i will also get one but where is it made?? Bud. :D


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Re: A new tool

Post by Herb Iffrig » Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:21 am

They are used on the farm to spray oil on roller chains for lubrication. We use one to oil the chains on our combine.


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Re: A new tool

Post by mtntee20 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:26 am

Using one of these many years ago, I found that I had to reduce the air pressure from the compressor to get mine to work properly. So, if anyone is having problems with proper operation of this sprayer, try reducing the air pressure supply to the sprayer. I still have mine but have had to replace the pick-up tubing as it got to be hard as a rock.

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Re: A new tool

Post by Emeraude » Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:35 am

Jimibartow, what is the brand name or part number for amazon. I would like to order one but could not make out the part number or brand on your photo


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Re: A new tool

Post by halftracknut » Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:40 am

I bought almost same thing at tractor supply...it was a sand blast gun...but I use it to paint wood fence you adjust air pressure to adjust amount of paint that comes out and in 1 hour I spray more fence than 100 men with a brushes...

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Re: A new tool

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:07 pm

I think i will also get one but where is it made??

Taiwan.



...what is the brand name or part number for amazon. I would like to order one but could not make out the part number or brand on your photo

See my post above at 9:44 PM.
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Re: A new tool

Post by jiminbartow » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:32 pm

George. Milton #S-184, “Turbo Blo-Gun Engine Cleaner”. Jim Patrick


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Re: A new tool

Post by DHort » Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:52 pm

According to Herb, do I need to buy a combine to use it?

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Re: A new tool

Post by perry kete » Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:20 pm

We used one of those on the farm for years. We would clean the equipment being put away in winter storage and then use that gun with the hose stuck into a bucket of used motor oil to spray equipment heads to prevent rust. It works as a protectant on the sickle bar mower blades, combine heads, underside of brush hogs etc. One time I thinned roof tar with gasoline and used it to undercoat my pick up truck by spraying it with that gun. The roof tar worked great as a rust stopper.
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Re: A new tool

Post by OilyBill » Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:50 pm

I have a couple of these, up to 4 feet long, for cleaning up radial aircraft engines. (Which are ALWAYS oily) They work very nicely. And when you pull them out of the solvent, they make a nice blowgun to blow away any solvent or other liquid remaining.


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Re: A new tool

Post by Luke » Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:32 pm

OilyBill wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:50 pm
I have a couple of these, up to 4 feet long, for cleaning up radial aircraft engines. (Which are ALWAYS oily)
Oily radials? Never! :o :-)

As you'll see below, despite drip trays we had to utilise various methods to reduce the oil flow via motor to the hangar floor from our twin wasps, one of these wash guns would have been a good thing... :

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Re: A new tool

Post by BLB27 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:56 pm

Would this work to spray paint remover on a body/fenders etc.?

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Re: A new tool

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:40 pm

Would this work to spray paint remover on a body/fenders etc.?

Probably depends on how thick the stuff is. If you try it, wear gloves and stay upwind of it.
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Post by halftracknut » Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:51 pm

Let tell you ...don't spray that stuff it will burn your skin...stripper needs to brush on thick to work good....I have used a garden sprayer...but no more...we used aircraft stripper with an accelerator and one pinpoint on your skin will set you on fire....the stuff is just wicked....

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Re: A new tool

Post by Duey_C » Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:42 am

What is a combine? A combination of the reaper, binder and the thresher.
So yes Dave, you do need a combine Or ANYTHING else you'd dare classify as a combination of things. :lol:
Ooh yeah, a sand blaster gun would work fine too. :) A buck says the hose won't like the juice. ;)
Bill makes a neat point too! When ya pull the suction tube out of the liquid cleaner it allows EVEN MORE air to travel thru the nozzle along with the air from the compressor. It pulls atmospheric air thru the tube.
We needed to get some water out of a "tank" one time at work (too much to sop up with rags and difficult to roll over) and didn't have one of these guns in the shop so I cut off a foot long piece of 5/8 hose, slit it on the bottom, grabbed a piece of 3/8 hose, pried open the slit, stuffed the 3/8 hose in, got the air blower gun hooked to the air line, put the 5/8 hose menagerie on the blower and we had a water suction machine. Spit water all over the floor.
Tank sucked near dry. Cool.
The guys stood there with dropped jaws. :)
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Re: A new tool

Post by Allan » Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:16 am

Duane, that thing you are talking about is a header. A combine is a machine which tills the soil, sows seed, applies fertiliser and covers the seedbed, combining all operations in one pass. If only we all spoke the same language!

Perhaps we should call them harvesters and seeders. That would make them hard to confuse.

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Re: A new tool

Post by Dallas Landers » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:42 am

C'mon guys. Tilling, planting, reaping threshing? Thats called a farmer.😂


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Re: A new tool

Post by OilyBill » Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:14 pm

Luke, that's a beautiful machine! DC-2 or DC-3?
You are right! Radial aircraft engines don't leak at ALL.
If they are out of oil, of course!


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Re: A new tool

Post by jiminbartow » Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:00 am

After only a couple of days, I received my Blo-Gun from Amazon, yesterday. A very well made tool that I anticipate should prove useful in cleaning parts. Thanks Steve and thanks to everyone here who offered advice on the many uses for this tool. Jim Patrick


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Post by Luke » Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:12 am

OilyBill wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:14 pm
Luke, that's a beautiful machine! DC-2 or DC-3?
You are right! Radial aircraft engines don't leak at ALL.
If they are out of oil, of course!
C-47, so you were pretty much on the money, and yes they're both beautiful ;-)

Like many of them if she'd been sitting for a while we had to remove the lower plugs and drain the oil out of the cylinders before even thinking about turning her over. Even if she'd been run the day before I very gingerly turned the props over by hand, looking for the slightest sign of resistance...

... but of course most of it ended up on the floor, as you see in the photo. And they were almost new motors straight from P&W! Naturally after that I've never really worried about the odd drop from the Ford.


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Re: A new tool

Post by Bud Delong » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:24 am

There is no binder in a combine!!! :oops: Bud.

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