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Wolf whistle

Post by AdminJeff » Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:33 pm

I need help replacing the connector on my wolf whistle which just broke and isnt fixable. Does any know anyone know where I can source this type of connector?

it appears to be 1/8"-27 NPT x ?? -16. Not sure of the dimensions of the large end. I don't have anything to compare it to. It's smaller than 1/2" pipe thread and 16 TPI.
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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by Al Meadows » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:03 pm

Jeff,

Here's the parts I bought from the local hardware store for mine back in the 70s. That's when hardware stores sold hardware. I just pull the plug in my manifold and install. It's not a pipe thread and I only use it now and then for special occassions. Normally it's off the car.

Hopefully the picture helps you. I can get you thread and size if you need.

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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by Mark Gregush » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:42 pm

I had one like that, I sold it. It was missing the whole assembly to mount it. My suggestion is to assemble every thing and get it lined up. Put witness marks on the parts, clean really good and use one of the two part metal epoxies to glue the parts together. Might work? ;) If you were to try and solder you would need both low temp solder and gun to even attempt it, but not sure you could even get the steel (not sure but the part that screws into the manifold looks like steel(?)) and pot metal to stick together with solder. Or have some one make the part that screws on the horn.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by AdminJeff » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:53 pm

No joy here as the piece that broke is aluminum. And there’s no way glue is going to hold that’n
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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by John E. Guitar » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:41 am

That looks like it might be 13/16 ORFS (O-Ring face seal).

Your local hydraulics shop should have something to replace it.

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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by AdminJeff » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:04 am

John E. Guitar wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:41 am
That looks like it might be 13/16 ORFS (O-Ring face seal).

Your local hydraulics shop should have something to replace it.
Good suggestion. If only there were such a store nearby! I do have a Grainger I could try.

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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by Chad_Marcheese » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:03 am

You might have to use a couple of adapters to get where you need to be. But it might be similar to the compression fittings used for air lines in big trucks.

Do you have any truck repair shops around you? They should have a fair selection of fittings---unless it's the shop I work in. You can also see if you have a industrial hose making shop. It very well could be or similar to O-Ring face fitting as suggested above. It definitely appears similar.

Also try the plumbing section at your local home improvement store. Again, your probably not going to find the exact fitting, but maybe get close with some adapting and creativity.

Below are the thread sizes for popular tube fittings used alot in truck air line fittings. These are straight thread compression style.

Maybe just the nut from the compression fitting can be used on your fitting or modified if it fits your thread size?

Tube O.D. 1/4" - 3/8" - 1/2" - 5/8" - 3/4"
Thread Size 7/16–24 / 17/32–24 / 11/16–20 / 13/16–18 / 1–18

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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by aDave » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:22 am

Jeff,
I wrote to Mr. (Mrs. ?) Google and asked : " Does JB weld stick to aluminum?"and the reply was:

"J-B Weld works on aluminum, or on ANY metal surface, excepting lead. JB Weld works well on aluminum. If you think that there is an outside possibility that you might ever want to separate the parts, use a mechanical fastener. I like JB Weld but am now using West's Gflex thickened epoxy for repairs involving metal."

So I clicked on one of the pictures of products that accompanied the text, and found this:

https://www.amazon.com/Hy-Poxy-H-450-Al ... 8629&psc=1

A shame the big box stores & National chains are driving the Mom & Pop operations out of existence. We are lucky to have a holdover...only second generation, though, where one can pull out the drawers and buy only the number of items on needs...and the selection of items is fantastic. Hope our store lasts - and good luck to you in your quest. (And we also have a CAT, John Deere and Case dealer within a reasonable drive.As has been written previously, perhaps one of the truck or tractor places [if you have one around you] could put together some fittings).

Good Luck...wish I had the part you needed...in partial compensation for all the work you are doing to keep the Forum operational!

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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by AdminJeff » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:02 am

David,
Thanks for the info. I’m headed to the hardware store. I might have some ideas for brass fittings that could work. Perhaps a little brazing is in my future, but that’s why I refilled my oxy tank, right?

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Re: Wolf whistle *solved*

Post by AdminJeff » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:06 pm

Sometimes you just have to sleep on the problem before you can come up with a fix. I had all these parts in my parts bin and with a little bit of brazing and some ingenuity the new part works better than the old one does.
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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by thom » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:18 pm

I'm just glad your whistle is on the opposite end of the country. I hate them things almost as bad as I hate bagpipes. :!:

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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by AdminJeff » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:15 pm

thom wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:18 pm
I'm just glad your whistle is on the opposite end of the country. I hate them things almost as bad as I hate bagpipes. :!:
Too funny. I love the thing. My passengers like it even more than I do. :D
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Re: Wolf whistle

Post by aDave » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:31 pm

Awwwww, Tommy....popping Jeff's balloon...shucks... :evil:

Jeff, Good going! It's great to have a supply of "spare parts". :P I had a supply once...problem was, the supply was too big for my brain - when I wanted something that I thought I had, I could not remember where I stashed it.

Problem solved...downsized - moved into quarters with not enough room for "inventory".

Congratulations on the fix!

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