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HCCT Trouble shooting

Post by Andy Loso » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:27 pm

I have a SSECO HCCT that I am having troubles getting the spark to jump the ring. It has a rebuilt Weston meter on it and will fire the coil and make the meter work, but it will not spark on the spark ring. By hooking up a test light to ground and then touching the spark ring it will 'spark' the test light. This is a SSECO HCCT, but the spark ring is of the type that in Patterson/Casica book, that is listed as an unknown manufacturer. I will attach a photo in a bit. Thanks in advance.
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Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

Post by Tim Moore » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:08 pm

Scuff the ring and pointer with abrasive and set gap. Common problem I have also had.

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Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

Post by MKossor » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:26 am

Surprising but oxidation on the spark ring and/or pointer can impead or prevent arcing between electrodes. This is the first thing you should check when experiencing a coil with missing sparks before concluding the coil suffers from irreparable internal arcing. Any good handbook HCCT operation should cover this fundamental operating detail.
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Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

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Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

Post by Andy Loso » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:50 am

I have glass beaded the ring, pointer, and the socket the pointer installs into. Check out the photo.


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Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

Post by jab35 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:23 am

Have you verified the Ford coil being tested is fully functional? If so, have you checked the 'spark' circuit, the ring to frame insulation, and the ring to coil secondary connection? And the coil box bronze spring terminals and wiring connections. Thanks for sharing photos, you will have this fixed in no time, jb


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Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

Post by Ron Patterson » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:39 am

Andy
Give me a call.
Your problem is common to this particular type HCCT.
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Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

Post by namdc3 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:22 pm

Andy, it is an Service Station Equipment Company (SSECO) unit, as well - just a later version than shown in the HCCT handbook SSECO section. It appears your spark ring might be grounded to the frame via the two mounting bolts. That needs to be isolated electrically, preferably by standoffs that don't have a through hole.


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Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:46 pm

Congratulations Andy!

You have identified the Service Station Equipment Hand Crank Coil Tester displayed on Page 63, as an unknown manufacturer, in the HCCT Handbook, by Bob Cascisa and Ron Patterson and that was the one I had the most trouble with, at the time.

I still have that heavy coil ring, as I replaced it with an Allen Coil ring that Ron had available.


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Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

Post by Andy Loso » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:58 pm

I have it figured out. With some good private messages, several emails, and a chit chat with the Coilman, the solution was found. The spark ring was grounded to the frame. I made some new standoffs out of some delrin, making sure there was no thru hole. One side holds the delrin to the frame and the other held the spark ring to the delrin. Now I can finish the restoration. I'll post a photo when done.

Thanks again.

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Re: HCCT Trouble shooting

Post by RajoRacer » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:30 pm

I turned Delrin stand-offs for my Standard HCCT - worked perfect.
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