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Hub Wrench T-1349 Manufacturers Insignia
Does anyone have any information of a manufacturers insignia found on hub wrench T-1349 that is a MW stamped inside an upside down triangle?
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Re: Hub Wrench T-1349 Manufacturers Insignia
Ford's tools were made by various companies. The #1349 here on my desk has M in a diamond (Frank Mossberg Company). The internet shows MW as a mark for Montgomery Ward, but with no diamond. I expect the MW-Triangle is something else. I may have one in my tool pile, but that doesn't answer your question. Take a look at the USPTO website. Maybe it shows tool trademarks.
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Re: Hub Wrench T-1349 Manufacturers Insignia
I have a brand new old stock Mosberg tool in my swap met stock. It is nickel plated. It is made from thinner material than the factory items, but all of the holes have an inbuilt flange pressed around them. This makes it easier on the hubcaps when using it on them.
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Re: Hub Wrench T-1349 Manufacturers Insignia
There was also Diamond Manufacturing that made a lot of bits and pieces. Some times there will only be a diamond stamped on the part and also some have the diamond with the name Diamond Manufacturing.
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Re: Hub Wrench T-1349 Manufacturers Insignia
Have several of the 1349 hub cap wrenches with that type of logo. WM in a pyramid.
Have several more of the earlier years styles, many with a H only (Herbrand?) and the common M in circle (Moore Drop Forge co.) or the M in a diamond (Mossberg).
These WM marked wrenches have the same features of the ones provided in 9/23/'24 to 7/27'25 to end of production of the T in '27, referring to John Regan's researching.
Maybe a guess, but that special logo with the WM might be Weston Mott. They were large stamping and axle maker. While they were part of GM, as early as '16, they were a big outfit that would be a good quality supplier.
Could be by late '24-'27 Ford was buying the cheapest tools from a good supplier they could find to save $ as the price of the Ford was the only selling point....keep all costs down so the Ford could be sold as the lowest priced car around!
Have several more of the earlier years styles, many with a H only (Herbrand?) and the common M in circle (Moore Drop Forge co.) or the M in a diamond (Mossberg).
These WM marked wrenches have the same features of the ones provided in 9/23/'24 to 7/27'25 to end of production of the T in '27, referring to John Regan's researching.
Maybe a guess, but that special logo with the WM might be Weston Mott. They were large stamping and axle maker. While they were part of GM, as early as '16, they were a big outfit that would be a good quality supplier.
Could be by late '24-'27 Ford was buying the cheapest tools from a good supplier they could find to save $ as the price of the Ford was the only selling point....keep all costs down so the Ford could be sold as the lowest priced car around!
Last edited by DanTreace on Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Hub Wrench T-1349 Manufacturers Insignia
Thank you Dan. That is some good information you provided, and you very well might be on the right track with Weston Mott.
I appreciate everyone's response and information.
Stu
I appreciate everyone's response and information.
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Re: Hub Wrench T-1349 Manufacturers Insignia
Dan, do you have the text that goes with John's drawing?
Is there any difference between the 23-24 wrench and the 24-25 version? I don't see any. Apparently after that brief August-September wrench Ford went back to the previous style.
Would Weston Mott use an MW mark? I expect MW stands for something beginning with M, not W.
I did a brief Google search and didn't find MW. I did find that some companies used a different mark every year, which rather complicates the search.
The rear axle hole being on a short wrench like the 1349, and not even on the end of it, is the reason so many of them are mashed on the sides by hammering.
Is there any difference between the 23-24 wrench and the 24-25 version? I don't see any. Apparently after that brief August-September wrench Ford went back to the previous style.
Would Weston Mott use an MW mark? I expect MW stands for something beginning with M, not W.
I did a brief Google search and didn't find MW. I did find that some companies used a different mark every year, which rather complicates the search.
The rear axle hole being on a short wrench like the 1349, and not even on the end of it, is the reason so many of them are mashed on the sides by hammering.
The inevitable often happens.
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Re: Hub Wrench T-1349 Manufacturers Insignia
Steve
Here is John Regan’s article on hub cap changes.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/17 ... 208547.pdf
Here is John Regan’s article on hub cap changes.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/17 ... 208547.pdf
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford
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