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More spring questions

Post by Tmodelt » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:03 am

Do the retaining bolts for the spring clips go above or below the spring? I have seen both.

Are there multiple types of spring clips? With and without locating tabs. I recently disassembled a "24" front spring and found the clips had locating tabs while the corresponding spring leaf did not have locating holes as I had expected.

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Re: More spring questions

Post by Mark Nunn » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:12 pm

My '26 runabout had been converted to a truck and used on the farm for much of its life. It still has telltale signs of overloading. One of them is that the sleeves on the rear spring clips are dented from hitting the axle. I doubt that someone would have turned them upside down ant any time. (Maintenance was lacking.) That means the bolts go under the spring.

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Re: More spring questions

Post by DanTreace » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:27 pm

The '18-27 Ford springs use u-shaped clips over the spring, and unique sq.-head bolt with hex nut and lock washer under the leaf. The 4th leaf normally has a hole for the clip lug. These lugs were either punched or some were rivet like shank or stud inside the clip. Later Ford '27 clips can appear to have a large dome rivet that looks like its riveted to the leaf, but is not. The rivet tang is short and goes into the normal hole in the leaf. Clips vary in size depending on front or rear spring. There are many aftermarket spring stacks, so you can have other differences too.

Earlier taper leaf have the 4th leaf with a rolled end for the bolts, so the clip goes under, and bolt is on top.



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Re: More spring questions

Post by Tmodelt » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:28 pm

Thanks! I didn't have a clear picture of the leaf with the end rolled up.

Do I need to drill a hole for the locating tab in the clip?

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Re: More spring questions

Post by DanTreace » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:18 pm

The hole for the clip tab would be helpful, funny its missing on your 4th leaf. But the spring is very hard steel, drilling a hole isn't easy.

Perhaps keep check on the clip, from time-to-time, and keep it tight. So it won't slip out of place. ;)


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