Front Axle Bearing Sleeves
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Front Axle Bearing Sleeves
My 19' touring's front wheel bearings, both inner and outer, are pitted and worn out. They are tapered roller bearings. I purchased the T-2833-XR(and XL) kits which use non-threaded Timken bearings. I was wondering if I needed to replace the axle sleeves, even if they look okay? They are shiny and seem to be fine, just the bearings were pitted - even the hub races seem okay.
When would you want to replace the sleeves? Do I need to do it as part of the replacement of the bearings?
When would you want to replace the sleeves? Do I need to do it as part of the replacement of the bearings?
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Re: Front Axle Bearing Sleeves
And did you notice that kit only provides the outer bearing? You will still need to get an inner bearing and cup. The cup you can probly get, the inner bearing may be hard to find still.
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Re: Front Axle Bearing Sleeves
OP it talking about the thread adapters that go inside a non threaded outer wheel bearing.
The adapter allows the use of a $20 bearing over the correct threaded bearing that when available runs $90.
Look @ the part # on Snyders site.
This set up looks like it would be very difficult to adjust correctly. I have no personal experience.
I would not run them or encourage a customer to run them. There are a lot of great serviceable, correct used bearings out there, that can be had cheap.
The adapter allows the use of a $20 bearing over the correct threaded bearing that when available runs $90.
Look @ the part # on Snyders site.
This set up looks like it would be very difficult to adjust correctly. I have no personal experience.
I would not run them or encourage a customer to run them. There are a lot of great serviceable, correct used bearings out there, that can be had cheap.
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Re: Front Axle Bearing Sleeves
personally, I'd wait for the real deal, and replace all races and bearings when they are all available.
I'd keep ALL the old bearings together and not put in parts piecemeal as fretting and spalling on old bearings could damage new ones. Clean the old ones thoroughly, grease them liberally and avoid crossing the USA this summer and you'll be fine while you wait.
I'd keep ALL the old bearings together and not put in parts piecemeal as fretting and spalling on old bearings could damage new ones. Clean the old ones thoroughly, grease them liberally and avoid crossing the USA this summer and you'll be fine while you wait.
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Sorry for the supreme ignorance on this one.
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Re: Front Axle Bearing Sleeves
Not something to be concerned about Jason. We all make mistakes and learn from them.
No one knows when the front outer bearings will be available again. The due date has come and gone a few times.
You will need to use used bearings if you get desperate.
If you do not have a sleeve puller, I recommend you purchase one. You can always pull the sleeves and re-insert them.
Try to find a couple of rear bearings as well just to keep in your stash.
No one knows when the front outer bearings will be available again. The due date has come and gone a few times.
You will need to use used bearings if you get desperate.
If you do not have a sleeve puller, I recommend you purchase one. You can always pull the sleeves and re-insert them.
Try to find a couple of rear bearings as well just to keep in your stash.
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Re: Front Axle Bearing Sleeves
I'm with Scott. I'd replace the cups along with the bearings when everything is available. The best prices for bearings are at Rock Auto, when they have them.
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Re: Front Axle Bearing Sleeves
I assume your are referring to the threaded sleeves shown with the parts you purchased. "Shiny" could be caused by the bearing race spinning on the sleeve. So can we assume that the old outer bearings are the same as the "kit" you are replacing them with? Since its a kit I would use all the new parts. Doesn't look like its that hard unless the old sleeve is rusted on the spindle.JBog wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:33 pmMy 19' touring's front wheel bearings, both inner and outer, are pitted and worn out. They are tapered roller bearings. I purchased the T-2833-XR(and XL) kits which use non-threaded Timken bearings. I was wondering if I needed to replace the axle sleeves, even if they look okay? They are shiny and seem to be fine, just the bearings were pitted - even the hub races seem okay.
When would you want to replace the sleeves? Do I need to do it as part of the replacement of the bearings?
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