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Record sales.

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Re: Record sales.

Post by TFan » Sun Sep 21, 2025 9:37 am

Pic #11 a little trick photography is what we have here, same fellas either side. #9 Looks like the boys are repairing some front end damage they have the spring out and that might be what they are beating upon, also the right front tire looks to be off the rim. Not to sure if I would trust their jack placement either. Jim
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Re: Record sales.

Post by George House » Sun Sep 21, 2025 10:11 am

#1…So the earliest Chippendale show was out of a ‘22 roadster, huh ??
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Re: Record sales.

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Sun Sep 21, 2025 3:41 pm

#9 - ‘13 or ‘14 with updated electric head lamps. Literally, a blacksmith shop repair, obviously the front spring has been removed. One may speculate the job is to repair a broken spring leaf (or two ? Or more ?). Looks like a leaf is being hammer welded, maybe - one man steadies a set-hammer while the other will provide the hammering force.

The right front tire is definitely off the rim, perhaps a result of whatever mishap broke the spring ?

Repair shop photos are the most fun to see, I think. Thanks again, Tom, for a great collection !
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Re: Record sales.

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sun Sep 21, 2025 8:30 pm

Photo eleven is very interesting, and not necessarily immediately obvious.
So, how many men does it take for a photograph?
There are four men that clearly appear on both sides of the car. In addition, both sides of the car have an additional man. The right side of the car (your left) has a tall man in a dark suit standing a bit farther back. The left (driver's) side of the car has a man in a sport cap and lighter suit sitting on the running board peering over the front fender.
So I guess six men involved. The camera was likely put on a good tripod, with a blinder put on one side (a common cameraman's trick at the time). A lot of non-roll film cameras using a single plate were easy to block off portions of the plate for double exposure tricks. One of the two men clicked the camera with the five other men posing. Once that side was done, the blinder was moved, camera reset, and the first camera clicker took his place with the other four men on the other side of the car while the second clicker man clicked the camera.

Wonderful photo for certain!

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Re: Record sales.

Post by George House » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:51 am

Now zoom in to that photo Wayne. On the far left side of it there stands a large man in a white shirt and light colored pants. Then, on the other side of the car behind the man peering over the fender….. there’s a GHOST IMAGE of the Same large man…..
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Re: Record sales.

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Mon Sep 22, 2025 6:55 am

George House wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:51 am
Now zoom in to that photo Wayne. On the far left side of it there stands a large man in a white shirt and light colored pants. Then, on the other side of the car behind the man peering over the fender….. there’s a GHOST IMAGE of the Same large man…..
Yeah, I spent some time looking at that man, both of him. I haven't been able to figure out for sure what happened with the photo in that area. Did the blinder slip? Did the photographer attempt a three blinder shot? The slow films used in some of those cameras take a second or maybe three or four for a proper exposure. Maybe the photographer accidentally clicked the shutter while the guys were getting into position, and that fellow got missed for part of that side's exposure (I suspect that is part of the answer?). It is interesting that it "appears" we are able to see the rear top socket through his arm.


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Re: Record sales.

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:03 am

Par’m me, fellers as I beat this to death. #11 is a real puzzle ! Remember, the camera sees the image upside down -
Perhaps someone will enlighten me, I have never seen a film or plate holder camera where the slide did not draw from the right side of the camera.

So, how was it done ? I believe there were six men in the group.

The fellow on the runningboard possibly took the first exposure, and another of the group took the second, accounting for only four men standing on the right side of the picture. I can’t figure why the big man in white is over-exposed, but his belt and hand are not.
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Re: Record sales.

Post by Mark Nunn » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:46 pm

Rich P. Bingham wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:03 am
Par’m me, fellers as I beat this to death. #11 is a real puzzle ! Remember, the camera sees the image upside down -
Perhaps someone will enlighten me, I have never seen a film or plate holder camera where the slide did not draw from the right side of the camera.

So, how was it done ? I believe there were six men in the group.

The fellow on the runningboard possibly took the first exposure, and another of the group took the second, accounting for only four men standing on the right side of the picture. I can’t figure why the big man in white is over-exposed, but his belt and hand are not.

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Re: Record sales.

Post by OilyBill » Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:38 pm

What a coincidence! I JUST installed a set of NOS "Chippendale Brackets" on my '14 Runabout! I use it to pick up chicks, so they KNOW I have Chippendale Furniture at my home! All's fair in the pursuit of romance!


Well, NOW, I am deflated! Also flummoxed! And possibly Bamboozled! as well. I found out that those brackets are for holding a small cage with a couple of Chipmunks in, to carry around - Chip and Dale! NOT for furniture at all!
I should have known, by the tiny box the set came in!

Yet the installation on the Edison car is HUGE! I hope those rodents are NOT angry, at THAT size! The picture was probably taken in Texas!

I will have to look for some OTHER after-market stuff to put on my "T"!

I am now hunting for an NOS "Lothario Patented Steam Harmonica" that serenades your date as you drive, and covers up the various Model T Rattles. The slogan is: "Makes her THINK she is riding in a Lincoln!"


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Re: Record sales.

Post by Moxie26 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:46 pm

Those Edison 250 Chippendales are very heavy machines on skimpy rollers..... better he used some heavy rope to tie that to the runabout seat. We have one in the living room and also Edison factory test stand unit with the same mechanism and 250 horn.


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Re: Record sales.

Post by Greg Griffin » Thu Sep 25, 2025 6:08 pm

Rich, many old emulsions were over-sensitive to blue light (note "lack of sky" in many shots) and so blue colored things were over-exposed. Perhaps the man is wearing a light blue suit?

Portraits of blue-eyed people can sure look strange.


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Re: Record sales.

Post by John kuehn » Fri Sep 26, 2025 8:41 pm

The lightning bolt on the T radiator is kinda cool in picture 13. Hadn’t seen that one before. Maybe kind of rare.


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Re: Record sales.

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:29 am

John kuehn wrote:
Fri Sep 26, 2025 8:41 pm
The lightning bolt on the T radiator is kinda cool in picture 13. Hadn’t seen that one before. Maybe kind of rare.

I am not certain of it being genuine, could be some sort of after-market thing? However, Marmon automobiles for a couple years used a very similar lightning bolt on their radiators.
Going from memory (since my usual reference book isn't handy?), along about 1928, Marmon like a lot of other high end automobile manufacturers introduced a "companion" car they called the Roosevelt (named after Teddy!). The idea of course was to improve company profits by cutting into lesser competitors territory. The crash in late 1929 of course changed all the market dynamics.
Somewhere around 1930, Marmon in a last ditch effort to save the company, dropped the "Roosevelt" name, and rolled the model into the "Marmon" line hoping the name would inspire more sales. The Marmon had used the lightning bolt for a year or two, the Roosevelt did not have the lightning bolt, until it got rolled into the Marmon line and along with the name, the lightning bolt was added to the radiator. Practically nothing else was changed to that car model. So when looking at era photos, the Marmon people look for the lightning bolt on the radiator to determine whether a car (if seen from an angle that would show it?) is one of the Roosevelts or one of the last of the Marmon line of cars.

May help date the photo?


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Re: Record sales.

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:32 am

I just looked more closely at the photo. The license plate is 1929 New York. Well within the time frame a lightning bolt could have been borrowed from a Marmon.

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