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DHort
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Gooseneck modification

Post by DHort » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:27 pm

My car is a 20 touring, and I have a 24 speedster. Neither normally carries a gooseneck so i had to adapt them. A gooseneck has two fixed bolts on top and a loose bolt made of unobtanium for the bottom.(At least both goosenecks that I have do not have these bolts). It is a half inch fine threaded bolt. I tried using a rubber washer to hold it in place, but this was only temporary. There are also special nuts for the bolts that I removed from the short spare tire carrier.
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These nuts are thinner than normal and they are rounded on one side.
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I tried them on my trip to Detroit and Dallas and I agreed they were the wrong nuts, so I knew I had to change the setup when I got home. Normally when you attach a wire wheel to a gooseneck you only screw it in with normal lug nuts. I was afraid of losing that loose screw, so I added regular nuts to the three screws on the gooseneck. Now the spare wheel will fit evenly since all three nuts keep the wheel the same distance from the plate.
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But what was the purpose of these thin screws? My speedster has wood wheels so it needs a Y carrier that I will attach to a gooseneck. Now it becomes clear. Those screws were specially made to attach the Y carrier. You can see in the photo of the Y how the holes are indented where the nuts screw on to the bolts.
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Now I just have to attach this to my Speedster and I will have a spare tire carrier on each car. Steve Jelf, lets go for another ride!


Norman Kling
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Re: Gooseneck modification

Post by Norman Kling » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:32 pm

The y carrier was made for 21" split rims. without the Y carrier it would fit the wire spoke 21" wheels. Both types were made for the 26-27 model. You would need to fabricate your own Y to fit the 30"x3 1/2" de-mountable wheels for the earlier models.
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Re: Gooseneck modification

Post by DHort » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:01 pm

Norm

They made Y's for both sizes. Mine is for the 30 x 3 1/2. The guy selling did not know what it was so I got it real cheap.


Norman Kling
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Re: Gooseneck modification

Post by Norman Kling » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:08 pm

In that case, I don't know a source for the thin nuts, but maybe you could cut down 3 regular lug nuts made for the wire wheels.
Norm


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Re: Gooseneck modification

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:08 am

Rig a step-down jig to hold a standard thin jamb nut in a drill press. Spin it. Use a grinding stone in a hand held drill to grind the angled edge. By carefully holding the angle, it will do a very nice job of it! Want to know how nice? I use a jig to spin engine valves to regrind them this way. Using a tri-square to verify the angle, and carefully measuring as I go, I can make them look like new. (Believe it or not)

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