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Identification Markings

Post by Bryant » Sun Jul 24, 2022 5:44 pm

There seems to be a lot of identification markings all over the model T. What they all mean can be mysterious. Maybe someone will know? Post them if you’ve got them.
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while wire brushing my frame down today I found this marking under the scale. I can see the letter M Then maybe a B or R and what might be a C or G. Any ideas? Its on the rear cross member drivers side right at the body mount hole. 1926 frame
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Kevin Pharis » Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:51 pm

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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Bryant » Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:18 pm

Thanks that was very helpful :|
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Allan » Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:38 pm

Different steel mills roll their I D marks in the product they produce. It may be just one of those.

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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:57 pm

I can't find previous discussions on this. These are the marks I am familiar with. I know A.O. Smith made frames early for Ford but others did later.
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maybe someone else can remember.
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by RajoRacer » Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:12 pm

There is a bunch of forging cartouches in the Ford Service Bulletins.
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by John kuehn » Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:13 pm

Some of the spring leaves on my 21 T has Carnegie randomly on the leaves. It’s faint but there.
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:26 pm

The spring markings are very interesting too. Here are some I found.
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and this 1914 date:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/17 ... 1321904484
I know we have discussed them before too, but where?
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Bryant » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:03 pm

RajoRacer wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:12 pm
 There is a bunch of forging cartouches in the Ford Service Bulletins.
Are the service bulletins on the MTFCA site somewhere?
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Bryant » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:04 pm

Rich, I like the little flag markings :)
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by RajoRacer » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:07 pm

I don't believe so Bryant - there's copied repro available at the vendors.
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by DanTreace » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:00 pm

Bryant wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:04 pm
 Rich, I like the little flag markings :)
The pennant has MSC in the legend. That stands for Michigan Stamping Company, a supplier of later Ford frames.

The other major frame supplier was Parrish & Bingham, typical marking is P&B in a circle.
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by DanTreace » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:04 pm

Bryant wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:03 pm
RajoRacer wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:12 pm
 There is a bunch of forging cartouches in the Ford Service Bulletins.
Are the service bulletins on the MTFCA site somewhere?
Service Bulletins can be read on the Model T Ford International site, under Technical Library on the homepage ModelT.org


Here is the listings of neat info on the Ford from that library.

http://www.cimorelli.com/mtdl/mtdl_year_title_list.htm
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:13 pm

Thanks Dan. It is good to get answers like that.
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Bryant » Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:44 pm

Yes thank you Dan! I will be lost in that pile of info for days :lol:
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here’s another hieroglyphic. Passenger side frame rail about the area of the carburetor. Possible assembly line guide?
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Chuck Regan » Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:49 pm

1926 front bumper bracket.
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Mark Nunn » Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:38 am

Bryant, Service bulletins are also on Cimorelli's website.

http://www.cimorelli.com/mtdl/service_b ... efault.htm
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Been Here Before » Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:16 am

A trade make is a trademark....
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Re: Identification Markings

Post by Bryant » Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:35 pm

Then there’s this one which I would love to find out! Owner from long ago?
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