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horn button column bracket bolt...

Post by NU2theT » Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:16 pm

After finding a good working horn and putting things back together I noticed I don't have the bolt/nut that holds the horn switch and secures the bracket to the steering column.

If any one could snap and post a picture of that long bolt/nut that would help in locating it through all my small boxes of parts ect. Thanks in advance.

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Post by KWTownsend » Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:56 pm

Here you go:
horn-headlight combo switch Ford.jpg
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The head of the screw and the nut are very, very thin.

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Post by Original Smith » Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:01 am

The photo above is not correct! The part in question is a screw, and is smaller than what is pictured. I detest people posting information like this! The originals were 6-32 X 1 1/2", raven finished. The nut is hex. I have several of these. I pick them up when at Hershey and other places.

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Post by Oldav8tor » Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:13 am

Whoa Larry....a bit of an overreaction. In the spirit of helping our fellow Model T enthusiasts we share the information that we have. If I had a 100 year old part I can be forgiven for thinking that it is correct the way it is made unless it contains something obviously modern. If you have better information you can share without being nasty about it.
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Re: horn button column bracket bolt...

Post by TRDxB2 » Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:25 am

Original Smith wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:01 am
The photo above is not correct! The part in question is a screw, and is smaller than what is pictured. I detest people posting information like this! The originals were 6-32 X 1 1/2", raven finished. The nut is hex. I have several of these. I pick them up when at Hershey and other places.
Larry, are either of these correct? Similar style screws but one is slotted and the other is slightly smaller head diameter and no slot. Also different thickness hex nuts. Both were in dirty horn buttons Thanks
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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:35 am

Thanks for posting the examples. Pictures are so helpful.
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Post by Original Smith » Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:46 am

What is nasty about posting correct information about a subject that will benefit everyone?

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Re: horn button column bracket bolt...

Post by TRDxB2 » Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:59 am

Original Smith wrote:
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What is nasty about posting correct information about a subject that will benefit everyone?
Your original response prompted me to see if I had a correct screw nut combination to match your description (The originals were 6-32 X 1 1/2", raven finished.) So are any of these parts not or screw correct.?
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Re: horn button column bracket bolt...

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:41 pm

Original Smith wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:01 am
The photo above is not correct! The part in question is a screw, and is smaller than what is pictured. I detest people posting information like this! The originals were 6-32 X 1 1/2", raven finished. The nut is hex. I have several of these. I pick them up when at Hershey and other places.
Well, then maybe you'd do us the kindness of posting a photo of your "Original Smith Approved" example... rather than blurting out "not correct!" and further "detesting" people who have gone the extra step to be helpful. So, you have several of them... well, good for you.

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Re: horn button column bracket bolt...

Post by KWTownsend » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:05 pm

The first picture I posted was harvested off the interweb. I wish I could give the image owner credit.
I have seen both thin and thick nuts like in the image Frank posted. Mine has the thin nut (and its really hard to put it together!)
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100% original.

Keep in mind that Ford sourced parts and fasteners from more than one supplier.

Larry, would you be so kind as to post some images of the fasteners that you have found over the years?

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Re: horn button column bracket bolt...

Post by KWTownsend » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:23 pm

Horn headlight patent pic 3.jpg


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Post by Original Smith » Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:15 pm

I agree, I'm a little rough around the edges at times, my apologies to those that can't take my comments! They are certainly not intended to offend anyone. I agree with Keith, when I was taking apart my NOS horn switch, I had a difficult time getting it back together.


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Post by Dropacent » Tue Apr 05, 2022 4:37 pm

You need to have a responsible adult check your posts before you hit the button. Don’t you have a neighbor kid that can help? That way he will learn about Ts JMHO


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Re: horn button column bracket bolt...

Post by NU2theT » Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:32 pm

Thanks for all the input fellas, hey....it's early April so I'm the fool who lost the hardware but the posts are priceless and informative.

That sketch of the assembly is great KW.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:07 am

It's good to see the information about these. The thread should be a good resource for those who have questions in the future.
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Re: horn button column bracket bolt...

Post by TXGOAT2 » Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:44 am

Nobody expects non-original horn button column bracket bolts! An insidious invasion of non-original horn button column bracket bolts and their co-conspiratorial, non-original horn button column bracket nuts is ruining our society! The need for Certified Expert Horn Button Column Bracket Bolt Inspectors (CEHBCBBI) has never been greater!


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Re: horn button column bracket bolt...

Post by Original Smith » Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:38 am

I just found another NOS horn switch screw, not bolt! I sent it to Keith, and hopefully will be able to share it. My concern is the threads. In Keith's original photo, the threads look like NC.

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