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Reproduction Parts
Most of you are aware of sub-standard parts, but this one is important. I'm trying to help a new member with an original 1915. He needs the correct axle housing caps for the car, and they are not available. I think that is disgusting with the number of pre 1919 T's on the road today. I don't want to hear any crap about shimming them up either!
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Re: Reproduction Parts
Just in case anyone does not understand the DEMAND part of "supply and demand"... 

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Are you talking about the steel caps with the felt washer that fit over the end of the rear axle tube? I have floating hubs and removed mine. Might still have them somewhere. I believe my 1917 would be the same as a 1915.
FWIW - I think most of the guys who stick with the original hyatt bearings have converted to modern neoprene seals which reduces the demand for the original type.
If you're talking about something completely different just ignore the above.
FWIW - I think most of the guys who stick with the original hyatt bearings have converted to modern neoprene seals which reduces the demand for the original type.
If you're talking about something completely different just ignore the above.

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Re: Reproduction Parts
Larry,
Hope this helps!
Hope this helps!
Regards,
Joe Kowalczyk - 1923 Roadster, 1913 Runabout, 1918 Speedster, 1912 Mother-in-law roadster
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Re: Reproduction Parts
Is this what you looking for?
Email me Larry. Dan-
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Re: Reproduction Parts
Caps need to be on hammer tight. I never considered shimming.Original Smith wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:43 amMost of you are aware of sub-standard parts, but this one is important. I'm trying to help a new member with an original 1915. He needs the correct axle housing caps for the car, and they are not available. I think that is disgusting with the number of pre 1919 T's on the road today. I don't want to hear any crap about shimming them up either!
Have wondered why earlier caps were not available for decades.
I have modified the larger later cups to fit tightly on earlier housings by 2 small pie cuts & welding them shut.
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Not a big fan of the machined caps. I get the standard cap and run a small internal bead on my bead roller. Installs and stays on well. I realize not everyone has a bead roller but if you ask around you’ll probably find someone that does.
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Larry, maybe it's time you got into the Model T parts manufacturing business !
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Group hug for Larry. 

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I have a large post office box of original Axle caps. Don’t know if they would work on your friend’s car.
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I have a few NOS early caps.
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Speedytinc Noted that he wondered why the earlier style haven’t been around for a good while.
It could be that the folks who make the later ones thinks they were all the same. It’s a detail that might have been overlooked.
It could be that the folks who make the later ones thinks they were all the same. It’s a detail that might have been overlooked.
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I managed to scrape up enough originals for my two current brass cars. I was all set to do a small slice cut and weld or heat and shrink of a later pair to make fit the earlier housings, when digging in a box of model T stuff I found another pair I did not remember having.
I am not sure whether cut and weld or heat and shrink would be easier to make look and fit best? But either way would work and take a lot less time than trying to make something from scratch.
I am not sure whether cut and weld or heat and shrink would be easier to make look and fit best? But either way would work and take a lot less time than trying to make something from scratch.
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I don’t know anything about flanges, but these start on a housing for a 15 WT and will not even try to start on a 26 housing.
Came out of a Ford dealer in the 50s. Dan
Came out of a Ford dealer in the 50s. Dan
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Thanks for all the meaningful posts! I believe my friend has found a pair. He will know in a week. I do believe that Lang's and Snyder's should join forces and get the correct ones made with all the pre 1919 cars that are still on the road!
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Some people install the TP backwards so their cat can't unwind it.
The inevitable often happens.
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Just standing on the sidelines eating my popcorn while looking at toilet paper patents, and it made me wonder, so Larry, I am curious what amount of these would need to be manufactured correctly to fill the immediate need and how many need to go into inventory to supply hobbyists in the future? Are you thinking 10 sets, 100 sets, or or 500 sets?? How much do you feel the average hobbyist would be willing to pay for these if they were correctly made???Original Smith wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:20 amThanks for all the meaningful posts! I believe my friend has found a pair. He will know in a week. I do believe that Lang's and Snyder's should join forces and get the correct ones made with all the pre 1919 cars that are still on the road!
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Re: Reproduction Parts
Having made the mistake of reproducing some rare T parts (exact copies) and everyone tries to grind me on the price, it’s hard to get much sympathy for the whiners!
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Amen Brother Les!
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You could move 40,000 of them, easily, if you could produce 20,000 value-priced cars.
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It's no longer legal to produce value-priced automobiles in this country.
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If you could produce value priced electric cars it would be legal & you would make a millions. But we know thats not going to happen as long as
the goverment will subsidize for special conciderations. Damn my tin foil hat fell off!
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the goverment will subsidize for special conciderations. Damn my tin foil hat fell off!
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John Von Karvaly nailed it. I believe the photos Dan posted are the later design. I don't understand what toilet paper has to do with this post!
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Re: Reproduction Parts
They are a tight hammer on fit. If they will slip on an early (15) housing, without a hammer, they are the later size. Seeming to not start on a later housing would be a normal situation. They fit that tight.
The early cups typically dont have the curved flange on the edge.
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Be careful when checking original unused caps if they are the early version or later version.
Ford did make some of the earlier smaller diameter caps with with the flange on them.
The ID of the caps should be 2.382-2.384" on the earlier smaller caps if NOS and 2.429-2.431" on the later NOS larger caps.
We have a few pairs of NOS smaller diameter caps available.
Thank You Steve
Ford did make some of the earlier smaller diameter caps with with the flange on them.
The ID of the caps should be 2.382-2.384" on the earlier smaller caps if NOS and 2.429-2.431" on the later NOS larger caps.
We have a few pairs of NOS smaller diameter caps available.
Thank You Steve