Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
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Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
Be interested in pictures or diagrams showing how it was done.
Love to be able to have both on the outside of the body on the left-hand side and would like to see how others who have done it accomplished it.
I have seen one's with the brake lever moved outboard but not also the shifter.
Love to be able to have both on the outside of the body on the left-hand side and would like to see how others who have done it accomplished it.
I have seen one's with the brake lever moved outboard but not also the shifter.
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Re: Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
Here is (a bad) pic of my outboard Ruxtel and e-brake levers. I don’t hand crank this car so abandoned the ratchet mechanism. It makes parking a bit tedious at times, but oh well! Both are made from modified e-brake levers, the brake lever is 3/4” shaft, and the shift lever is welded to a piece of tube that pivots on the brake shaft
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Re: Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
I'll be tackling the same on my speedster. On the last one I built, I made a new cross shaft / e brake shaft that goes underneath the driveshaft, but with a 6 inch extension on the driver side. Moved the ratchet mechanism to the outside of the body, making a bracket that braced on the underside of the seat, and then a tab that went down to connect to the cross shaft so when you pull the ratchet lever on the shaft and bracket cannot flex independently. I left the normal shaft underneath the back of the transmission pan and then ran a remote rod between the two. I'll see if I can dig up some pictures.
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Re: Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
Hi Iu'dai,
I did not put the park brake outside the the body but did move the the Ruckstell shifter out side the body. I mounted the shifter on the radius
rod & drive shaft tube so the shifter moves with the driveline outside independent of & under the body. I installed the shift lever up so the shift handle is reversed from normal. ( Ruckstell forward & Ford back ) Craig.
I did not put the park brake outside the the body but did move the the Ruckstell shifter out side the body. I mounted the shifter on the radius
rod & drive shaft tube so the shifter moves with the driveline outside independent of & under the body. I installed the shift lever up so the shift handle is reversed from normal. ( Ruckstell forward & Ford back ) Craig.
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Re: Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
Thanks for the info, keep it coming.
Found these 2 pics. Love to see the undersides of these cars. My car has one of those brake equalizer set ups for a 20-27 T that allows the brake to work as either foot operated or the hand brake lever. But I am removing it and going to just stock style lever E-Brake.
I want to use a Model A brake lever for the outboard left-hand shift lever for the Ruckstell and the OEM lever as is but keep the left side E-brake connection in the stock location. Craig, I like how you got yours going in opposite directions. I imagine if I have both outboard, I will have to take the knee bend out of them.
Found these 2 pics. Love to see the undersides of these cars. My car has one of those brake equalizer set ups for a 20-27 T that allows the brake to work as either foot operated or the hand brake lever. But I am removing it and going to just stock style lever E-Brake.
I want to use a Model A brake lever for the outboard left-hand shift lever for the Ruckstell and the OEM lever as is but keep the left side E-brake connection in the stock location. Craig, I like how you got yours going in opposite directions. I imagine if I have both outboard, I will have to take the knee bend out of them.
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Re: Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
Here is how it was done on my '23 Speedster.
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Re: Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
Hi Skyhunter,
I was unable to email these so I'll post them. Hope this helps. Sorry about the mess I haven't cleaned it up since the last speedster run.
Craig.
I was unable to email these so I'll post them. Hope this helps. Sorry about the mess I haven't cleaned it up since the last speedster run.
Craig.
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Re: Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
Well, I have not built this set-up but I have thought about it. It uses a factory parking brake shaft extended to the outside of the speedster body. A tube with a handle welded on slides over the extended section of the parking brake shaft. The factory emergency brake handle then goes on. For a speedster appearance, a “gate style” quadrant goes around the Ruckstell and emergency brake handles. It would require a clever Ruckstell shift rod to go from outside the frame to the shifter on the Ruckstell.
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Re: Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
Hi Chris,
Thanks for posting that drawing I will print & save that.
Craig.
Thanks for posting that drawing I will print & save that.
Craig.
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Re: Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
Thanks Chris and Craig. I was thinking of doing the gate but having the levers off set using a Model A brake lever for the Ruckstell and possibly taking the knee bend out of the T lever. But I may want the extra separation. But the tube over shaft single mount look would be a lot cleaner.
I am going to do like Craig and have them go in opposite directions. Also going to try and get another right-side e brake end to use where the stock lever would have been for the left-side connection of the OEM brake rod. I think that would be easier to use than trying to use the cut-off end from the lever after it goes outboard.
Thanks for all the pictures.
I am going to do like Craig and have them go in opposite directions. Also going to try and get another right-side e brake end to use where the stock lever would have been for the left-side connection of the OEM brake rod. I think that would be easier to use than trying to use the cut-off end from the lever after it goes outboard.
Thanks for all the pictures.
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Re: Anyone with a speedster and a Ruckstell and hand brake on the left outboard off the body?
Ruckstel and Model T brake lever on the same shaft. All levers are farther back than stock location. Ruckstel shifter goes through, Model T brake lever goes forward to actual cross shaft that is Model T brake/shift handle.