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Battery Box

Post by Craig Raynor » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:19 am

Any one here have an idea if this was something originally sold from Ford on a production car? If yes of what year/years this would be found on?[image][/image]
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Re: Battery Box

Post by Craig Raynor » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:20 am

A few more pictures
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Re: Battery Box

Post by BHarper » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:39 am

Hi Craig,

If I recall correctly, Ford did supply that battery box in 1919 when they introduced the starter and generator on the closed cars. Apparently they didn't have ready the battery carrier and its box which we are so familiar with and, of course, the changes which would be required on the assembly line. Perhaps this running board mounted box was a quick and easy stop gap measure until they had the changes in the manufacturing process sorted. I can't tell you for how long Ford used this box, but it wasn't long. It would be correct for a 1919 enclosed car.

Nice Find.

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Re: Battery Box

Post by DanTreace » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:05 am

Super find! Haven't seen one before, but knew they were rare items, only 1919 for a very short time.

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Re: Battery Box

Post by Craig Raynor » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:49 pm

Thanks for the information thinking I will sell it.


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Re: Battery Box

Post by Original Smith » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:20 am

I believe Don Lang had a NOS one of those a few years back. It sold for a lot of money.

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Re: Battery Box

Post by Mark Gregush » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:00 pm

Looking at it where the holes come out and the type of latch, I am thinking it might be TT truck. The battery on the TT is located behind the running board on the drivers side and the wires feed to the back. Those pin type latches would be a real bugger to undo down in the the hole on a car. Also on a car the ground feeds to the left and positive feeds to the front.
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Re: Battery Box

Post by John kuehn » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:57 pm

Looking closely at the battery box it very well could be a NOS box going by the mounting and battery cable holes. It doesn’t look like it was ever mounted just looking at the holes in the pic. The inside also doesn’t look like it ever had a battery in it. It’s to clean.
Most likely it was sat up on a shelf or outside for a while and just slowly rusted up by just sitting and moved around for the last 90+ years.
I could be wrong but it couldn’t have been used much in any case. Neat find!


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Re: Battery Box

Post by BHarper » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:08 pm

Hi Mark,

This battery box was only used on the passenger car and never on the truck. It was mounted on the running board. This was used only in 1919 and the trucks did not get the starter/generator package until 1920 at the earliest. The trucks used the same battery box as used on the cars in the battery holder under the floor.
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Re: Battery Box

Post by Craig Raynor » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:30 pm

John Kushan I would agree with you on this because it has the mounting bolts inside. I picked it up at a friends house he is selling off his fathers collection.I brought a friend, George King to see a vehicle,he bought it and has started to get it ready for Hershey show field-HPOF.He has some T stuff mostly early stuff that we plan on selling at Hershey.
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Re: Battery Box

Post by wayne sheldon » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:01 pm

Craig Raynor, Nice Sears in that picture! Is that the car George King bought? So you know George king well? And is this the George King that used to rebuild antique engines? I have along wanted to contact him, yet somehow never did. The name "George King" was fairly common among some of my ancestors about 150 to 200 years ago. There is a fair chance he and I could be distant cousins.
Maybe you could pass this along to him?


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Re: Battery Box

Post by Shemp » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:16 am

I really like those hit and miss engines too! Great pictures! I think they would look good in my barn:)

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Re: Battery Box

Post by Shemp » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:23 am

I really like those hit and miss engines too! Great pictures! I think they would look good in my barn:)

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Re: Battery Box

Post by Duey_C » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:34 pm

Wow, what a cool find Craig! 11,500 out of 825,545 or so produced that year and the mounting bolts still inside. :)
You gone after it with WD-40 or some-such and a soft scrub brush yet? There's color under the rust on the back at least! Wow.
Yes, great pictures Craig! Thank you! Tiny bit of garbage but very little scrap iron in those stacks.
Randy, how many engines you find in Craig's pics? I found 6 plus the set of green flywheels (IH, F-M?) and main shaft...
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